tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post4474167171976014442..comments2023-11-02T08:03:43.456-05:00Comments on The Repair Bill: Dying from Loot ThirstUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-27406737183098637502010-02-14T23:49:13.854-06:002010-02-14T23:49:13.854-06:00Amiable post and this enter helped me alot in my c...Amiable post and this enter helped me alot in my college assignement. Say thank you you on your information.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-62482934639993409942008-04-08T12:50:00.000-05:002008-04-08T12:50:00.000-05:00"They, on the other hand, will feel like you DO ow..."They, on the other hand, will feel like you DO owe them for the gear. So you may not be able to leave with an untarnished name here, I'm afraid."<BR/><BR/>Ya i totally agree with you there.<BR/>Even if i pay back the mats which i could not provide on those three pieces im sure there will still be some anger there. I guess we'll see though.<BR/><BR/>I figured it out and what i owe the guild is 16 primal lifes and 3 primal nethers for the pieces. Which is only a few hundred gold so at least i will have left by paying them in full.Raydzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17151370699444981541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-12811497272317152652008-04-08T12:04:00.000-05:002008-04-08T12:04:00.000-05:00I didn't know you provided most of the mats for th...I didn't know you provided most of the mats for the nature resist gear yourself, and I also didn't know you already did talk to people to keep them happy. You're selling yourself short a little bit with your posts!<BR/><BR/>How thankful you should be for the resist set depends on the situation, I guess. If you needed some gear from Hydross, then obviously you should be thankful for having your guild give you the opportunity to obtain that gear. <BR/><BR/>If you can't use anything from Hydross but most other players in the guild can, the guild is allowing you to make a long-term investment: you help them to get gear, with which you can progress further. So it's more of a symbiotic thing: they help you help them to help you etc.<BR/><BR/>Of course, now you're thinking: "Well, what if there's no long term?" Because when I'm reading what you're writing, that's what it sounds like to me. Whether the guild will implode or not, it doesn't sound like you're having much fun. It DOES sound like you are seriously contemplating looking for another guild, possibly on another server.<BR/><BR/>Ironically, in that case, you should be thankful to your guild for providing that gear again: they've boosted your chances to become a tank for other guilds :-).<BR/><BR/>But seriously, I can imagine why you feel like you don't owe them too much for the gear, and they owe you gear for your DKP. They, on the other hand, will feel like you DO owe them for the gear. So you may not be able to leave with an untarnished name here, I'm afraid.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158453524954355428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-46762798499363305242008-04-08T10:17:00.000-05:002008-04-08T10:17:00.000-05:00Well, I will agree with you that wearing the gear ...Well, I will agree with you that wearing the gear benefits the guild as much as it does you. That is until you spend your DKP and leave the guild.Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14944722986881594862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-85402062605143680992008-04-08T10:07:00.000-05:002008-04-08T10:07:00.000-05:00I dont have a problem with the tank helping to pro...I dont have a problem with the tank helping to provide mats for the gear, because in the end the gear ends up binded to him. I dontated alot of mats for the set i was given and i didnt have a problem with it.<BR/><BR/>The part that i see as the problem is that everyone feels that the tank now "owes" the guild some huge debt, or that the tank was given this huge gift.<BR/><BR/>When in reality, the only time im going to use this gear is when im in a raid , on a boss we kill 1x a week for 10 minutes, whom i need no gear off of. <BR/><BR/>Wearing the nature set benefits the guild much much more than it does me.Raydzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17151370699444981541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-6955506246063876172008-04-08T09:45:00.000-05:002008-04-08T09:45:00.000-05:00It takes alot of resources to setup a toon with re...It takes alot of resources to setup a toon with resist gear. IMO, the tank should at least provide the nethers for the gear. Since badges are dropped like hookers on nickel night, I see no problem in having the tank provide 10 - 20 badges for these nethers. You'll still have your DKP, so 10 or 20 badges are like 1-2 weeks of raiding for you.Baconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14944722986881594862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-64986205882814020872008-04-08T08:36:00.000-05:002008-04-08T08:36:00.000-05:00Yeah i spent most of my day yesterday trying to pa...Yeah i spent most of my day yesterday trying to patch holes keeping people happy, and as far as i know the GM kind of scolded the guy for the afk but didnt boot him or anything. <BR/><BR/>Spending my Dkp before the guild falls apart is exactly what i am concerned about. Raiding takes alot of time and money and i hope to be rewarded a few key items iv been chasing after before it happens.<BR/><BR/>It's funny you would mention the nature gear because i had this talk with another wow player just a day or 2 ago.<BR/>I realize the guild did build me 3 nature set pieces, but in my defense did contribute alot of mats to those. I just didnt mention it in my post because i wanted to elaborate on how much the other guys came together to come up with the mats. Which i have told those guys i do appreciate.<BR/>Everyone looks at the nature or frost set as an amazing gift that a guild gives a tank, but i dont really see it that way. I realize that they are expensive pieces, but they are also very situational. <BR/>Besides using them to tank a boss which i need no gear from 1x a week what else am i going to do with these pieces? I already had the trinket off hydross before i had this set. I dontated more mats to the set than anyone, for a set that i honestly dont even need, so while i do plan to reimburse as many mats as i can i dont feel an amazing strong obligation to NOT transfer because of this set since it was pushed onto me more than me seeking it out.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if all tanks see the resist sets like me or if i have a skewed thought process?Raydzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17151370699444981541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4530241144900170855.post-70922980248997545442008-04-08T03:53:00.000-05:002008-04-08T03:53:00.000-05:00You sound like the guild falling apart or not is s...You sound like the guild falling apart or not is something you can do nothing about; you're just hoping it doesn't happen before you've had a chance to spend your DKP.<BR/><BR/>First of all, you COULD try to influence what happens in your guild. Not saying it would definitely help, but it would increase the chance that your guild does not fall apart.<BR/><BR/>One thing to do this would be to discuss the ZA run with the GM or RL and see whether they can try to prevent people from AFK'ing to watch a movie. Another thing would be just to chat with people who seem to be pissed off (like that hunter in the ZA run). You'd be surprised how much happier people are once they've been able to vent.<BR/><BR/>Second point, about the loot thirst and your DKP: your guild just made you three epics that you didn't have to spend any DKP on. Of course your guild wanted you to have them, since it's very useful for them if you have that gear. But when you transfer or leave the guild or when the guild falls apart, no one is going to benefit from those pieces apart from you.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11158453524954355428noreply@blogger.com